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England's next manager

Post by redandwhitemike » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:16 am

Seems appropriate to ask the question, who should be brave enough to grasp the poisoned chalice.

And does any one have faith in the F A to make the right choice - I certainly don't.

For me it would have to be Hoddle and Shearer, together - the most successful manager and player in recent times at International level who might take the job and be a success at it.

Not sure it will happen though.
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Re: England's next manager

Post by garthrockett » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:24 am

So long as no one asks Hoddle about religion its a good call, though I fear Shearer is a tad too excitable for this level....... :lol:
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Re: England's next manager

Post by redandwhitemike » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:36 am

garthrockett wrote:So long as no one asks Hoddle about religion its a good call, though I fear Shearer is a tad too excitable for this level....... :lol:



OH come on, that's what's needed - a bit of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, PASSION :wall:
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Re: England's next manager

Post by Cal's Spongebag » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:16 am

Glad to see you realise it is a poisoned chalice.

In terms of management, it looks like we should prepare ourselves for another lurch in another direction. Any direction, that is, apart from the last direction.

Hoddle, could do worse. Maybe a retrograde step, but, as Greg Dyke says, 'Who would want the job'?

Alan Shearer. Great footballer. Only managerial experience was getting relegated with Newcastle after taking over with 8 games to go and 2 points below safety. Says he would be interested in getting into coaching at some stage, but shown no interest in taking his managerial or coaching career any further despite several offers. Doubt very much if he has taken any coaching courses, or has any qualifications.

Specialist subjects include stating the bleeding obvious and looking very smug. Even alongside the other BBC pundits he comes across as ill-prepared.

This is an example of his arrogance....

"I went to see the FA four or five years ago and I said, 'I want it, I'll have that job'," Shearer, whose only managerial experience to date is a two-month spell at Newcastle in 2009, told the BBC.

and his muddled logic....

They looked at me and said, 'No, it's a lack of experience'. And I said, 'You've hired experienced guys, you've paid them an absolute fortune, I could not have done any worse than those guys'.
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Re: England's next manager

Post by redandwhitemike » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:47 pm

Cal's Spongebag wrote:Glad to see you realise it is a poisoned chalice.

In terms of management, it looks like we should prepare ourselves for another lurch in another direction. Any direction, that is, apart from the last direction.

Hoddle, could do worse. Maybe a retrograde step, but, as Greg Dyke says, 'Who would want the job'?

Alan Shearer. Great footballer. Only managerial experience was getting relegated with Newcastle after taking over with 8 games to go and 2 points below safety. Says he would be interested in getting into coaching at some stage, but shown no interest in taking his managerial or coaching career any further despite several offers. Doubt very much if he has taken any coaching courses, or has any qualifications.

Specialist subjects include stating the bleeding obvious and looking very smug. Even alongside the other BBC pundits he comes across as ill-prepared.

This is an example of his arrogance....

"I went to see the FA four or five years ago and I said, 'I want it, I'll have that job'," Shearer, whose only managerial experience to date is a two-month spell at Newcastle in 2009, told the BBC.


and his muddled logic....

They looked at me and said, 'No, it's a lack of experience'. And I said, 'You've hired experienced guys, you've paid them an absolute fortune, I could not have done any worse than those guys'.
So who would you suggest?

Lurent Blanc perhaps?
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Re: England's next manager

Post by Ossie » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:34 pm

I believe Steve Burr is a free agent at the moment


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Re: England's next manager

Post by Krasnyi » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:03 pm

Dave Hockaday?

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Re: England's next manager

Post by Lovejoy » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:13 pm

For me Klinsman or Hoddle with a preference for the former.
I understand Jurgen has expressed an interest.

Glad to see Southgate has ruled himself out of the job.

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Re: England's next manager

Post by brumkidd » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:34 pm

Guus Hiddinck has all the attributes and experience to be a brilliant England manager. But it's the FA that appoints them so he has no chance.
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Re: England's next manager

Post by pricey5 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:00 pm

For me I don't see a suitable English candidate. Eddie Howe would be my choice if it had to be English however he's still young and would surely not want to leave Bournemouth yet.

Hiddink or Klinsmann would be my choices.

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Re: England's next manager

Post by Zorro » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:29 am

Alex Ferguson out of retirement

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Re: England's next manager

Post by Medieval » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:25 pm

I think it`s a poor show if a footballing country like us (not in terms of our success - just size) has to go foreign again;especially as the 2 previous ones failed with the "golden generation". Also, the FA would have even less sway with the Prem. regarding inflow of foreign player`s, regarded as one of our problems.

There seems to be a gathering view that one of our biggest problems is our players get scared when things go against them, so a top motivator should be a priority.

Hoddle would have the respect of the players & gives the impression of being a reasonable bloke.

Sherwood? Villa went downhill more rapidly after he left, if memory serves.

Allardyce. Get`s result`s with lesser team`s & modern outlook. Seems more amiable these days.

Eddie Howe, one for the future, doubt he would want the job when he could be in charge of a top Prem. club in not too distant future.

Of course, none of them have the c.v. of Roy :wall:

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Re: England's next manager

Post by pershoreharrier » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:44 pm

England Managers have to have the special talent of taking good players and moulding them into a totally under performing team - those that have pace show little of that attribute and those that can score have to shoot only when the opposition defender is in place (right in front of them usually) to deflect the ball away - goal keepers are required to where deep sea divers boots and if a player shows particular talent in one position then you cannot play him there.

Got to be a job for Andy Thorn.

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Re: England's next manager

Post by Hartleburyharrier » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:09 pm

Big Sam for me, passionate and forward thinking, just keep Shearer and Neville away from the set-up. Hoddle is yesterdays man, had his chance, and Howe can only manage Bournemouth.

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Re: England's next manager

Post by redandwhitemike » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:53 am

I would agree with giving Allardyce a go - but I don't think he will get a look in when the fat cats draw up their short list.
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