Re: Euro 2016
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:53 pm
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Full agreement on that, too many changes from Woy, Andros Townsend must have been shedding a tear or two watching that. Wilshire, poor game, Henderson a tad better but not great, Llanana (how long a name can you have only using three letters?) is a rabbit in the headlights in front of goal. I can't see us turning our chances into goals any time soon unless we get more space when we meet a better team that comes out to play against us.redandwhitemike wrote:How frustrating was that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 0-0 and in all honesty. although England were the better team by some distance, they struggled to create enough to really threaten the Slovak goal - and although Hodgson tried to influence the game with his changes to the team and the substitutions - it was all like for like he doesn't have a 'Plan B'.
Even Glen Hoddle was left wishing for an Andy Carroll type player to get on the end of the crosses.
But England have qualified, albeit the Welsh have outshone England and finished top in a group that England should really have won by a street - five strikers in the squad and England can only average a goal a game.
I actually think that some of the changes were positive Clyne had a blinder first half, and Henderson was better than I thought he could be, but Wilshire disappointed - not match fit.
Sturridge is too slow in the build up and Lalanna still flatters to deceive and has no end product.
But above all we missed Rooney,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
If the FA give Hodgson another contract they all need to go and hang their heads in shame.
Damn, should have put some money on!sandman wrote:I can't see Slovakia being a big danger but IF Bale and Ramsey perform for Wales, I can see them winning the group with perhaps England second.
harriershane wrote:Style, no substance? Where have we heard that before...
Wouldn't have took Lallana off. Would have took Henderson off instead, Wilshere justifying everyone's complaints about his place in the squad.. Vardy and Lallana both arguably should've scored but we didn't really create anywhere near enough
Cal's Spongebag wrote:Would be interested who R&W Mike thinks would be a better option than Hodgson.
Really??Medieval wrote:From the BBC website:
England 29 shot`s, most we have achieved in a Euro Championship final since 1980.
5 shot`s on target.
11-0 corner`s.
Also i would add, a blatant penalty on Cline.
Think under most circumstances such dominance would result in a win.
Agree we should have taken Carroll & Townshend, instead of Rashford(his time will come!) & Sterling.
Don`t agree with criticism of Llalana, one of our better performer`s, can create & rarely gives the ball away.
Don`t see anyone more suited & qualified than Hodgson as manager for the World Cup.
I`m disappointed but we must face reality, we outplayed all 3 opponent`s, but football is football, don`t alway`s get the result you deserve.
I do agree with most of what you have said, however the bolded is not true. Of the starting 11 that played against Italy 2 years ago, only 4 players can consider themselves regulars now (Hart, Cahill, Rooney, Strurridge).redandwhitemike wrote:At the end of the day, England have managed to win one game, with a goal in the last minute of added time.
But Wales - yes Wales FFS - have topped the group, how embarrassing is that, unless you're Welsh !!!
Hodgson bangs on about dominating games and looking good in possession, - he still doesn't understand how predictable his game plan is and how frustrating his style of football is to watch.
England will continue to struggle to break down organised sides with better players than Slovakia.
Hodgson's insistence on carrying his favourites around with him will be his down fall. Wilshire - Henderson - Sturridge none of them match fit for footy at this level, Milner ( proven failure) and Rashford (unproven kid) are others who shouldn't be there.
Yet the likes of Drinkwater, Carroll, Townsend & Noble who were all in superb form at the end of the season in the Premier League are left behind - ridiculous and a perfect illustration of the man's limitations as a manager.
Tournament football is all about creating momentum and confidence and winning games and to do that you have score goals, under Hodgson in the 2014 World Cup - England finished bottom of their group and managed to score TWO goals, Italy also failed to qualify in the same group. I think it is clear that Italy have progressed with Conte as manager and look a real force in the 2016 Euros, they might even win it, but England under Hodgson have stood still, if you look at the 2014 World Cup squad it is littered with the same faces that failed then, and they are still playing now. A little known trivia fact is that England have the record in World Cup history as the team with most 0-0 results !!!
Good luck to Wales - they could easily progress a lot further than England in the competition, which would be the final insult to English football.