MotM: 28-03-15 Braintree (H) Kelly

[DownTheLine]

no he was booked for raising his arms, if he stood still then he couldn't have been booked. By raising his arms and moving it became a foul.

we win 3-1 and folks still aren't happy.....

Absolutely correct Sprials regarding Hughes's booking - player is perfectly entitled to stand in front of the player taking the throw in if he stands still.

Which folks aren't happy with a 3 - 1 win???

r

Both of you are totally incorrect.

An opponent cannot stand within 2 metres of a player taking a throw in.....Hughes was cautioned for failing to retreat to the correct distance after being warned by the referee.

does not state 2m DoNut...read yer handbook...lol

48 LAW 15 – THE THROW-IN
A throw-in is a method of restarting play.

A throw-in is awarded to the opponents of the player who last touched the ball when the whole of the ball crosses the touch line, either on the ground or in the air.

A goal cannot be scored directly from a throw-in.

Procedure
At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower:
• faces the field of play
• has part of each foot either on the touch line or on the ground outside the touch line
• holds the ball with both hands
• delivers the ball from behind and over his head
• delivers the ball from the point where it left the field of play

All opponents must stand no less than 2 m (2 yds) from the point at which the throw-in is taken.

Page 48 in the LOTG book.

[Phil]

2 metres = 2.187 yards

Which one does the official choose then?

[sprials]

DoNut =

Phil, you spotted the problems refs have! but if a player moves closer to the player on the pitch, who is in the wrong, the player on the pitch of the player taking the throw in...

hughes was that distance away on the booking he received

[DownTheLine]

The referee decides where the throw in is to be taken from....if they are happy where the player takes the throw in, the point of delivery, then that is where the distance applies from.

[BIGED63]

So, in response, it doesn't actually matter where the ball crosses the line?
It is then how much the referee will allow the "taker" in Braintree's case the right back, apart from a couple of occasions to take all defensive throw in's by the half way line?!

Clear As Mud.

[sprials]

and that's the problem

FA need to say the ball should taken at the point it went out, id they want a run up then do so, but if take after that point it should be a foul throw

[Colgofray]

I suppose it would be too simple to give the lino a can of disappearing foam to indicate where the ball went out, then if the throw is taken beyond that point...... it's a foul throw. Main problem (which I've yet to figure out) is what happens beyond the half-way line he's running???????

[Neurotic Norman]

2 metres = 2.187 yards

Which one does the official choose then?

Did you call someone a pedant?

[andrewb]

A similar point I have wondered about before now - players should be 10 yards ( metres?) from a free kick placement , but sometimes the kick, especially if not near opponents goal, and no foam, is taken 5 or 8 yards from where the foul actually occurred . Now does this mean , if taken say 5 yards further on, that defenders can be 5 yards away, as long as they are 10 from where the offense occurred?
I have seen instance where the free kick taker has " stolen a few yards" then placed ball and kicked it quickly to hit defender who was certainly 10 from where offense occurred but not 10 from the kick taken. And the ref has booked the defender for not retreating 10 !

[sprials]

I suppose it would be too simple to give the lino a can of disappearing foam to indicate where the ball went out, then if the throw is taken beyond that point...... it's a foul throw. Main problem (which I've yet to figure out) is what happens beyond the half-way line he's running???????

think all levels of the game should now use the foam
we need a 6th and 5th official who marks where the ball went out where the asst refs aren't.....could use lvl 4-6 refs for that task.....

[Morgan]

I suppose it would be too simple to give the lino a can of disappearing foam to indicate where the ball went out, then if the throw is taken beyond that point...... it's a foul throw. Main problem (which I've yet to figure out) is what happens beyond the half-way line he's running???????

think all levels of the game should now use the foam
we need a 6th and 5th official who marks where the ball went out where the asst refs aren't.....could use lvl 4-6 refs for that task.....

Clubs would love paying for that

[Cal's Spongebag]

Within 10-15 yards or so, does it really matter??

[Phil]

I suppose it would be too simple to give the lino a can of disappearing foam to indicate where the ball went out, then if the throw is taken beyond that point...... it's a foul throw. Main problem (which I've yet to figure out) is what happens beyond the half-way line he's running???????

Most of the time it's the crowd that tells the lino the ball is out of play

[garthrockett]

getting back to the match itself.....

For me pre-match the set up in the back four didn't bode well. I never like to see players (ie Hodgkiss) play on the "wrong" side, but in reality they all seemed to cope well- Fry had a few understandable problems adjusting to the pace of the game and got caught/outnumbered a few times.

Nat Kelly looks raw , but nice to see such a young defender so decisive in attacking any aerial ball; he didn't always get it right but made his mistakes far enough up the field for the rest of the team to cover; reminds me a bit of the way old Abou Sall played the game!
Marks is no slouch goal-wise but until he went off injured was in Kelly's pocket....promising for the future.

The midfield worked hard and concentrated on the basics; Verma undemonstrative, Gittings and Byrne chased and harried, although I felt sorry for Greeny. Often isolated out on the wing, he's not a natural winger (lacks some pace) and found himself against a row of defenders with nowhere to go.
Obeng would be a better bet -for the first hour at least- at telford.

The goals were bread and butter stuff; long balls through and both strikers (for once) took their chances. The overall game wasn't pretty - it was frantic stuff at times and often very disjointed , but that's not the point- a win is a win.
Lets have another at Telford please!

[The White Snowman]

no he was booked for raising his arms, if he stood still then he couldn't have been booked. By raising his arms and moving it became a foul.

we win 3-1 and folks still aren't happy.....

Absolutely correct Sprials regarding Hughes's booking - player is perfectly entitled to stand in front of the player taking the throw in if he stands still.

Which folks aren't happy with a 3 - 1 win???

r

Both of you are totally incorrect.

An opponent cannot stand within 2 metres of a player taking a throw in.....Hughes was cautioned for failing to retreat to the correct distance after being warned by the referee.

does not state 2m DoNut...read yer handbook...lol

48 LAW 15 – THE THROW-IN
A throw-in is a method of restarting play.

A throw-in is awarded to the opponents of the player who last touched the ball when the whole of the ball crosses the touch line, either on the ground or in the air.

A goal cannot be scored directly from a throw-in.

Procedure
At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower:
• faces the field of play
• has part of each foot either on the touch line or on the ground outside the touch line
• holds the ball with both hands
• delivers the ball from behind and over his head
• delivers the ball from the point where it left the field of play

All opponents must stand no less than 2 m (2 yds) from the point at which the throw-in is taken.

Spirals being put in his place (again!)

Page 48 in the LOTG book.