MotM: 17-01-26. Worksop (H) Walker

[PhilBilly]

It would appear Harriers don't have a 'Best' striker - as the manager felt the need to field none of them !! Speaks for itself that against a side like Worksop (big & physical) he gives the striker role to Hemmo - I can understand his thinking unfortunately there was nobody in the midfield who could find the killer pass and Hemmings was often nearer the half way line than their penalty box in search of the ball. I still think pushing Obi forward for the final twenty minutes would have been more rewarding that taking him off and bringing on the players he did.

Have to agree with this especially the Obi up front for the final 15-20min. At very least hes a handful but hes also top scorer and looks the most composed player in front of goal we have. It may also convince TSS to walk away and release more money for the wages of other players.

I also feel the fan favourite feeling that hemmo was brought in for has done its thing. George walker could get better and better and I would invest in him rather than hemmo going forward. Any agent that represents a striker who's looking for a new opportunity should be watching Harriers games and the supply chain we have from walker, devine, foulkes and Evans and begging the club for a chance to play here.

Having said that I dont honestly believe we can win the league now. I think playoffs are are only route up and thats always a gamble. Therfore, I wouldn't want the club to spend silly money on someone. That being said anyone watching harriers can see we are missing a goal scorer..

[Harrier1994]

The Hemmo talk is interesting, he's clearly had a positive effect as we are undefeated since he's come in and he's only missed the games he's ineligible for in the Trophy.

So it might be he positive influence has come off the pitch, the impact it had on the fans and the players seems obvious and that's been clear on the pitch since.

I'm very split on what we do, I'd be happy for us to keep him but at the same time can see why we should free up his wages. It's not an easy decision for Murray, Holdsworth and Lane

One thing I will say Murray says in his interview Minakar is the best finisher at the club. Worth the gamble of trying him? Fylde did it with Ormerod at his age and he's banging them in for them.

[PhilBilly]

Hemmo is a tough one and I agree with what you say about the off field stuff but Murray says that of AMS and TSS. There are only so many cheer leaders you can pay/carry. I thought Hemmo was on fire in the South Sheilds game and how he didnt score still amazes me. However, since then the performances havent been at the level this team needs. In my opinion Joe plays better with Hemmo ahead of him so thats also a tough one for Murray. Have to agree Murray, Lane and Holdsworth have a big fortnight ahead! Last season when we needed players we got Morrison who was sat on the bench at Solihull and Worrell who amazingly was sat on the bench at Cuzon Ashton!!!! I dont think we could have dreamt of two more impactfull players..

We also have to acknowledge that by Murrays very own admission he got recruitment wrong on a number of occasions this season and so the pressure is on to get it right now. I would love to know if a call has gone out to Notts County to see if Maz fancies more than 10 min off the bench each week...

[Badger]

Hemmo I see you point and it’s a conundrum for Murray to think about
One thing history tells us with hemmo
Is that his form is patchy always has been never consistent. It’s either below average or the absolute dogs
He needs a goal, once he has that and the love for him is amplified because of him scoring he’ll go on a run. I’d keep him: you don’t become a bad player over night he’s usually good for 15 a season plus last season he was the dogs!

I’ll agree with you twice:

1. I don’t think the goal was Dibs’ fault (everyone around me did). It was a decent decision and execution with the punch out.

2. Hemmo will come good. He’s exceptionally fit for his age, he hasn’t lost it yet, far from it.

1) Dibble 100% at fault for the 2 nd goal very weak punch when he could of caught the cross, I will also like to study highlights for the 1st goal as his parry from the shot went straight to there player standing on the penalty spot , basic goal keeping is try to get away from goal.

2) Totally agree Hemo will come good , thought he looked better when he playing more of the 10 role rather than the false 9

[tonythescout]

Hemmo I see you point and it’s a conundrum for Murray to think about
One thing history tells us with hemmo
Is that his form is patchy always has been never consistent. It’s either below average or the absolute dogs
He needs a goal, once he has that and the love for him is amplified because of him scoring he’ll go on a run. I’d keep him: you don’t become a bad player over night he’s usually good for 15 a season plus last season he was the dogs!

I’ll agree with you twice:

1. I don’t think the goal was Dibs’ fault (everyone around me did). It was a decent decision and execution with the punch out.

2. Hemmo will come good. He’s exceptionally fit for his age, he hasn’t lost it yet, far from it.

1) Dibble 100% at fault for the 2 nd goal very weak punch when he could of caught the cross, I will also like to study highlights for the 1st goal as his parry from the shot went straight to there player standing on the penalty spot , basic goal keeping is try to get away from goal.

2) Totally agree Hemo will come good , thought he looked better when he playing more of the 10 role rather than the false 9

Blaming dibble for both goals loooool
Punch is fine imo as it’s out the way. Foulkes was weak with the player and it’s a freak deflection. What do you want him to do with the first goal? Catch a powerful shot? Issue was we got done down the left (not for first time? And Foulkes is sat on his arse by a very good composed striker who scores (wouldn’t we want one of them lol)
And before you go nuts like you did at Harry, yes I was at the game.

[tonythescout]

Sadly the stench of the summers activity’s is still
About.
Four marquee signings not worked out and taking a good part of the wage bill I suspect
Mooney crocked but wasn’t overly hopefully given his rep and he’s done nothing for a few seasons. Always a risk
Kurt hasn’t fitted system but has looked ok just not the system for him so why sign?
Tss makes the Gerry mcdonut signing look ok he’s that bad
Tunni was good enough but not in the 11
Now and clearly Murray didn’t fancy him early on so why sign him?
Hopefully tss and Kurt can be moved on so the loanees can be kept and a cf can be signed as we will get promoted via the playoffs then we won’t at the moment as we’ve not got a good enough cf

[Badger]

Hemmo I see you point and it’s a conundrum for Murray to think about
One thing history tells us with hemmo
Is that his form is patchy always has been never consistent. It’s either below average or the absolute dogs
He needs a goal, once he has that and the love for him is amplified because of him scoring he’ll go on a run. I’d keep him: you don’t become a bad player over night he’s usually good for 15 a season plus last season he was the dogs!

I’ll agree with you twice:

1. I don’t think the goal was Dibs’ fault (everyone around me did). It was a decent decision and execution with the punch out.

2. Hemmo will come good. He’s exceptionally fit for his age, he hasn’t lost it yet, far from it.

1) Dibble 100% at fault for the 2 nd goal very weak punch when he could of caught the cross, I will also like to study highlights for the 1st goal as his parry from the shot went straight to there player standing on the penalty spot , basic goal keeping is try to get away from goal.

2) Totally agree Hemo will come good , thought he looked better when he playing more of the 10 role rather than the false 9

Blaming dibble for both goals loooool
Punch is fine imo as it’s out the way. Foulkes was weak with the player and it’s a freak deflection. What do you want him to do with the first goal? Catch a powerful shot? Issue was we got done down the left (not for first time? And Foulkes is sat on his arse by a very good composed striker who scores (wouldn’t we want one of them lol)
And before you go nuts like you did at Harry, yes I was at the game.

We will have to disagree on the punch , what is wrong with trying to catch the ball if he misses 9 times out of 10 refs blow up and protect the keeper just ask AMS, there keeper seem to try and catch all the balls we crossed in.

Regards to the 1st goal I just want to see if the parry could of been away from goal as I said I want to see the highlights

Yes I do think there are better keepers in this league but I don’t think it is our number one requirement to strengthen as every one has said for what seems forever, we need more firepower up front

I am glad you were there supporting the team , it is IMO fair to have an opinion criticising or praise based on what you have seen and not via a third party . I will now probably be banned from the site.

[Sam ETP]

Hemmo was getting criticism from those around me, even after he put the throughball in for our first goal.

He's class at this level and can make a difference suddenly, even when it looks like he's not in the game.

I also thought Foulkes had a below par game, and was at fault for the first goal. Usually superb, of course.

[Phil]

Harry has been a long time Harriers fan and has also contributed to this website immensely doing match reports and season reviews etc. He is also an admin on here.

He also lives in London and has a very important job in journalism. He finds it hard to get away for games but still keeps in contact with games via social media etc.

I value anything that Harry says and will defend him to the end.

[tonythescout]

Hemmo was getting criticism from those around me, even after he put the throughball in for our first goal.

He's class at this level and can make a difference suddenly, even when it looks like he's not in the game.

I also thought Foulkes had a below par game, and was at fault for the first goal. Usually superb, of course.

Hardly noticed Hemmo yesterday but it was he who found Evans for our first goal with a sublime ball. So he defo still has the X factor

[ograzebrook]

I would class both of the goals conceded as unlucky really. Pointless to point the finger. They got 2 lucky deflections, one off the keeper and one off Digger. It happens sometimes.

No point in declaring the title race over just yet. It's a big gap, but lots can happen between now and the end of the season.

[harry211]

I agree with a lot of the above, based on the highlights. Dibble has his critics, but really think it's unfair to pin either goal on him. The first is a well worked response to our own carelessness in midfield. The second - if he had come out and caught it, there's a good chance he'd have missed (he was stretching as it is), or he'd have gone down to ground having fumbled it. As a keeper, think he made the right decision, but he should probably have punched it harder.

Walker seemed a real livewire. I think you can see the folly of playing cross after cross, and not having a proper centre forward in there. Hemmo's ball to Owen Evans was sublime, but I don't think he is the sort of player to lead the line. For now AMS has to start, until we get a better replacement. Got to feel for Kurt Willoughby. I still think there's goals in him, but not here it seems.

The encouraging thing is we had the chances to win it, created plenty, and just got caught on the day. It happens, and it'll happen to Fylde, Merthyr and South Shields too. It's not over yet...

[tonythescout]

Leading the line isnt Hemmo's natural position, hes usually out on the right causing havoc or in a two off a big man. Not saying he cant do it. Against the footballing sides you can go with that type of player (see Slough last season where Hemmo did and bagged a hattrick) but against big no nonsense centre halves lik Waterfall etc all at Worksop it isnt the way to go.
Kurt doesnt fit the system sadly. Not big enough to lead the line, needs to be in a two. Why sign him (an Tunni) in that case?

[Badger]

I have watched the highlights and still feel Dibble could have done better with both of there goals but as others have said , these things happen and of course we would not slate an out field player if they missed a sitter would we.

[tonythescout]

I have watched the highlights and still feel Dibble could have done better with both of there goals but as others have said , these things happen and of course we would not slate an out field player if they missed a sitter would we.

depends how bad it was. TSS's v Darlington worst I've seen.