Renewed relationship between KHIST and KHFC
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Harry Aire
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Well as no-one else is responding I will. I'm sure your analysis is spot on Brumkidd. That must be how this ownership view things. Whether such a materialistic view justifies the rudeness of ignoring a friendly letter from harriers fans which is trying to mend bridges is another matter entirely. There is such a thing as common decency and I do not know what KHIST has ever done to be treated with this degree of contempt. Happy Christmas everyone.
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tonythescout
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I am glad this hasnt sparked off some emotional ultimate defensive responses as it does pose a decent point. I am told the likes of Purple and Deltron have put in decent amounts into the club yet Lane gets criticized from some for prioritising these sorts (corporates) - well if they are sticking decent money in and sponsoring then well done Mr Lane. You cant win with some people.Brumkidd Again wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:12 pm Playing Devil's Advocate here and merely musing, but from the club's point of view, what have KHIST got to offer?
Again, only musing, but I seriously doubt that should the club find themselves in a parlous financial situation, KHIST could step in or would have the contacts to encourage someone else to step in. I'd have thought that the club would concentrate their efforts on teaming up with or cosying up to anyone with the financial clout to run a football club.
If I'm miles off track here then I offer my apologies.
I do hope however that there can be some relationship between the club and KHIST and this can be repaired as a relationship, however big or small, between the two parties will only be beneficial.
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ograzebrook
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Agree 100%tonythescout wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:18 pmI am glad this hasnt sparked off some emotional ultimate defensive responses as it does pose a decent point. I am told the likes of Purple and Deltron have put in decent amounts into the club yet Lane gets criticized from some for prioritising these sorts (corporates) - well if they are sticking decent money in and sponsoring then well done Mr Lane. You cant win with some people.Brumkidd Again wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:12 pm Playing Devil's Advocate here and merely musing, but from the club's point of view, what have KHIST got to offer?
Again, only musing, but I seriously doubt that should the club find themselves in a parlous financial situation, KHIST could step in or would have the contacts to encourage someone else to step in. I'd have thought that the club would concentrate their efforts on teaming up with or cosying up to anyone with the financial clout to run a football club.
If I'm miles off track here then I offer my apologies.
I do hope however that there can be some relationship between the club and KHIST and this can be repaired as a relationship, however big or small, between the two parties will only be beneficial.
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redandwhitemike
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If someone went to the effort of writing to me I’d at least offer a response.
Totally agree on the above, I don't think the principal reason for a renewed relationship is KHISTs ability to 'bail out' the club if needed (although recent history has shown the efforts of KHIST and it's members can help considerably in this regard).
I think it just makes sense for the club to have a dialogue with the 'mouthpiece' and representative group of its fan base. I can't see there is any downside to it at all, for the sake of writing a response / offering a meeting or phone call, I can't see why the club wouldn't want to rekindle a working relationship, even if it is at arms length.
I think it just makes sense for the club to have a dialogue with the 'mouthpiece' and representative group of its fan base. I can't see there is any downside to it at all, for the sake of writing a response / offering a meeting or phone call, I can't see why the club wouldn't want to rekindle a working relationship, even if it is at arms length.
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Jack Hammer
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The only time there appeared to be any dialogue in recent years, that I can remember, was when David Knowlton wrote a full and reasonable response to a number of KHIST queries. David isn't in that role any more.
I don't know if KHIST have done anything 'wrong' since that time? A bit puzzling.
KHIST may or may not have the financial clout of a big sponsor, but they do have some willing and free manpower and I am sure would have their uses to the club.
I don't know if KHIST have done anything 'wrong' since that time? A bit puzzling.
KHIST may or may not have the financial clout of a big sponsor, but they do have some willing and free manpower and I am sure would have their uses to the club.
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Pershore Harrier
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The problem is the history of the relationship between the former owner and representatives of KHIST which I believe was somewhat firey to say the least. The current owner is fully aware of the past events and clearly does not want to even get close to such a scenario developing again. Silence and non communication secures that position.redandwhitemike wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:31 pm If someone went to the effort of writing to me I’d at least offer a response.
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tonythescout
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Wonder what the reasons are for not wanting to engage? Relationships work both ways however Lane has been here since before Covid hit, so there has been plenty of water under the bridge since then so I think it would be worth exploring further about at the very leas,t engaging back to any forms of communication.
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Pershore Harrier
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Richard Lane saw the relationship and the consequences of that relationship between Colin Gordon and KHIST especially towards the end and I can understand why he does not want to re-engage and risk entering a similar period of misery.tonythescout wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 1:12 pm Wonder what the reasons are for not wanting to engage? Relationships work both ways however Lane has been here since before Covid hit, so there has been plenty of water under the bridge since then so I think it would be worth exploring further about at the very leas,t engaging back to any forms of communication.
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Bucks Harrier
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Probably does not want to recognise and validate an organisation with a similar name and logo that can pubicly leverage opinion and threaten the businesss descision making process.
Similar to a business not recognising a Trade Union.
Similar to a business not recognising a Trade Union.
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Joe Stalin
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Not sure how someone who by now is, in reality, almost a sole shareholder, can feel his "business decision making process" would be threatened by simply politely responding to a letter from a democratic group of his company's stakeholders.
Seems remarkably thin-skinned if so. And RL is hardly Jeff Bezos, is he?
Seems remarkably thin-skinned if so. And RL is hardly Jeff Bezos, is he?
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Sheffield Harrier
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Good grief.Bucks Harrier wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:47 pm Probably does not want to recognise and validate an organisation with a similar name and logo that can pubicly leverage opinion and threaten the businesss descision making process.
Similar to a business not recognising a Trade Union.
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Bucks Harrier
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No, he isnt Jeff Bazos. Your taking an apple and comparing it to an orange. It all seems perfectly clear and simple to me. It's not unique or even unusual. A letter of any kind would be published on the KHIST website and here and on it would go as you can imagine.Joe Stalin wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:59 pm Not sure how someone who by now is, in reality, almost a sole shareholder, can feel his "business decision making process" would be threatened by simply politely responding to a letter from a democratic group of his company's stakeholders.
Seems remarkably thin-skinned if so. And RL is hardly Jeff Bezos, is he?
Parking aside the independent trust beef, the general interface between the fans and the club is lacking in alot of areas. There are are some lesser value-add activiites that as a chairperson of a 130 year old football club you need to commit to making an effort for, regardless of challenges of time or charisma. Surly the PR and media team/person there should be doing more to drive it?
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Joe Stalin
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If RL is worried that KHIST would share his letter, he only needs to write back in confidence, or even, gasp, offer a half-hour face to face meeting. His approach right now smacks of high-handedness.
I agree the club's media team could do a lot more, but maybe they're under instruction from above?
Hey, ho. At least things look better on the field at last. But I think we all need to remember the role KHIST have played before when things are at their bleakest. We may well need to all stand together again in the future.
I agree the club's media team could do a lot more, but maybe they're under instruction from above?
Hey, ho. At least things look better on the field at last. But I think we all need to remember the role KHIST have played before when things are at their bleakest. We may well need to all stand together again in the future.
