TAXI for Murray

[harry211]

Very good post from Auspice above. I agree with every word.

Despite his undoubted qualities, our chairman is clearly not a man who values openness and communication with the fans and we live in a twilight world of hunches and guesswork as a result. I feel things have gone horribly wrong in the last seven months and sacking a manager who had so nearly achieved success for a new man and a new team was a huge gamble made for unexplained reasons.

I fear the character of this ownership is manifest in the current situation and the lack of transparency matters at a crisis like this with no clear sense of direction and a widening gulf between the decision makers and the fan base. It may not matter so much when things are going well on the field but you can't really ask us all to "pull together" (which seems to be the current mantra) when most of us are told so little about what goes on in the club and the organisation which represents the fans can't even get a reply to its letter.

I am afraid the future looks bleak.

Not strictly true and very harsh! But keeping this on topic, It was myself that witnessed the incident on Saturday with Luca and given the seriousness of the incident I reported it to RL. He responded immediately, updated me on what was being done and has acted.

He has acted quickly and decisively, however, with the bigger question around AM we will have to wait and see.

Fair play - and good to hear about Lane's response.

[Ireland Simon]

Well I was in Nicosia in August and it was 42 degrees so no doubt he as a hot head lol

[Harry Aire]

Well Jasper you may have contempt for the views I express and you may feel I'm having an "undeserved dig at RL" but you don't actually engage with the points raised. Are they really so contemptable? My feeling is they are at the heart of what is currently wrong with this club (which I have supported for nearly 40 years) and it would be good to have a reasoned response rather than the usual attempt to shut down the debate. It seems RL is viewed by you as someone beyond criticism and anyone who suggests otherwise is somehow disloyal. Apparently we should just be grateful to him and say nothing. In my view no-one is beyond criticism and RL has portrayed himself as someone who is willing to learn from his mistakes. I am merely offering a view on an area where I feel he could do better. You disagree, I respect that. But not all of us feel as you do.

[maxspeed]

Well Jasper you may have contempt for the views I express and you may feel I'm having an "undeserved dig at RL" but you don't actually engage with the points raised. Are they really so contemptable? My feeling is they are at the heart of what is currently wrong with this club (which I have supported for nearly 40 years) and it would be good to have a reasoned response rather than the usual attempt to shut down the debate. It seems RL is viewed by you as someone beyond criticism and anyone who suggests otherwise is somehow disloyal. Apparently we should just be grateful to him and say nothing. In my view no-one is beyond criticism and RL has portrayed himself as someone who is willing to learn from his mistakes. I am merely offering a view on an area where I feel he could do better. You disagree, I respect that. But not all of us feel as you do.

Harry, we have been here before, not sure it's a good idea to engage (Phil won't like it).

[Phil]

I don't mind. Let people sort it out between themselves. I have enough to worry about without getting stressed about this place.

Only when it goes too far will I step in.

[marcus garvey]

Well Jasper you may have contempt for the views I express and you may feel I'm having an "undeserved dig at RL" but you don't actually engage with the points raised. Are they really so contemptable? My feeling is they are at the heart of what is currently wrong with this club (which I have supported for nearly 40 years) and it would be good to have a reasoned response rather than the usual attempt to shut down the debate. It seems RL is viewed by you as someone beyond criticism and anyone who suggests otherwise is somehow disloyal. Apparently we should just be grateful to him and say nothing. In my view no-one is beyond criticism and RL has portrayed himself as someone who is willing to learn from his mistakes. I am merely offering a view on an area where I feel he could do better. You disagree, I respect that. But not all of us feel as you do.

Harry, we have been here before, not sure it's a good idea to engage (Phil won't like it).

Let's he honest, if RL appointed King Leopold II of Belgium as manager, Jester would praise a record of increased rubber production.
As in most cases, the truth is somewhere in the middle. No-one should be above criticism, but shutting down debate rather than engaging in discussion seems par for the course these days.

[TWG85]

I'll jump in on the Auspice post, then.

In the case of Hemmings & the departing players who were offered contracts, we know what happened. A money offer came in for a 34 year old, he was offered a significant increase in wages & he took it. Other departing players, a deadline was given with their contract offers. Some which you'd presume a face saving exercise, with a couple heading for higher levels. We were told all this in club statements/manager interviews. People transparently moaning just to moan. Either that or the reality inconvenient to their moaning.

Brown, I wouldn't fight anyone on. He was a successful manager, a popular figure in some circles. Could they have put a little more meat on the bone whilst staying professional/trying to avoid a public fight in the media, I'm sure they could. But I also say ask yourself how often do you get additional details on this stuff, from clubs. It's few-and-far between. And if Murray had gotten off to a better start, none of it would even be thought of.

Definitely think there should be a public figure above the manager, who we hear from in 10 minute plus interviews, 2-3 times a year. Something I think majority of us have maintained throughout his tenure. Would be a massive help. But there is also an aspect of give fans an inch, they'll take a mile. And let's not pretend there isn't. Those of us that are mature-minded.

Big RL man, myself. Always have been. Man undoubtedly put in millions of his own money at this point. It all comes from a wholesome place, stemming from the memory of his father. He clearly comes at it all with good intentions, I think how little he commands the limelight & his contributions are highlighted, tells you that. A man of the community. The man clearly has ambition, albeit with practicality. I think he's brilliant.

[Mirage Molby]

In other news - we’re now 10-1 with the bookies to win the league.

I think everyone sensible has written this off now - a little bit disappointing after only 11 games but here we are.

I still think the team is capable of making the playoffs but a lot needs to change.

Murray isn’t going anywhere unless this becomes highly improbable.

I hope he can turn it around, starting on Saturday. I’d love to see Davis and Reynolds start.

I’m sure Chester are looking to kickstart their season too - our defence is going to be unfamiliar with each other again - that’s where we’ll be most vulnerable especially if we persist with zonal marking at corners!

[Golin Cordon]

Those criticising RL really do need to give their heads a good wobble. Unbelievable.
Do we really want all our dirty laundry aired?
A little more transparency would be nice but we are a professional football club believe it or not so some matters should be kept internal.

As for Murray I really can't see him turning it round. There's too much bad feeling in the air caused by his own actions & more recently from his management team.

I initially loved Murray & even more so after the curry with Murray, I was texting friends saying hes going to be a good one, how I feel now is that I couldn't feel anymore wrong.
We didn't need wholesale changes when he was appointed as he alluded to. We needed to keep as much of that squad together and add a couple of real quality additions.
Him tearing up contracts and replacing these proven players ie Richards with his own was admirable but brave - it simply had to work or its his neck on the chopping block - It hasn't

The worrying thing for me is theres been very little signs of improvement. Any wins or the last min winner versus Leamington were simply painting over the cracks.

[Jim mankey]

I'll jump in on the Auspice post, then.

In the case of Hemmings & the departing players who were offered contracts, we know what happened. A money offer came in for a 34 year old, he was offered a significant increase in wages & he took it. Other departing players, a deadline was given with their contract offers. Some which you'd presume a face saving exercise, with a couple heading for higher levels. We were told all this in club statements/manager interviews. People transparently moaning just to moan. Either that or the reality inconvenient to their moaning.

Brown, I wouldn't fight anyone on. He was a successful manager, a popular figure in some circles. Could they have put a little more meat on the bone whilst staying professional/trying to avoid a public fight in the media, I'm sure they could. But I also say ask yourself how often do you get additional details on this stuff, from clubs. It's few-and-far between. And if Murray had gotten off to a better start, none of it would even be thought of.

Definitely think there should be a public figure above the manager, who we hear from in 10 minute plus interviews, 2-3 times a year. Something I think majority of us have maintained throughout his tenure. Would be a massive help. But there is also an aspect of give fans an inch, they'll take a mile. And let's not pretend there isn't. Those of us that are mature-minded.

Big RL man, myself. Always have been. Man undoubtedly put in millions of his own money at this point. It all comes from a wholesome place, stemming from the memory of his father. He clearly comes at it all with good intentions, I think how little he commands the limelight & his contributions are highlighted, tells you that. A man of the community. The man clearly has ambition, albeit with practicality. I think he's brilliant.

Good post, I'd also add that in the few short conversations I've had with DH he's come across as a very decent bloke.

[Krasnyi]

If anyone needs cheering up I’ve just been chatting with a Hereford supporter who says they’re as pissed off as we are (and the highlight of their season was seeing our score on Saturday). Also said Radcliffe were best team they’ve seen this season.

[Krasnyi]

Watkiss in as assistant manager. Murray going nowhere for now.

[Northern Harrier]

Watkiss in as assistant manager. Murray going nowhere for now.

Watkiss was known for his attacking football and seeing a match out wasn't he....

Have things just got better or worse?

[tonythescout]

It’s too far gone for giving him more help
He’s alienated the fans. Shown complete illusion. The alleged incident after peterboro sports followed by a warning to Wes of the khfp.
He should be sacked in my view

[harry211]

Crikey, Watkiss is a blast from the past...