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Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2026 3:20 pm
by marcus garvey
Pershore Harrier wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2026 2:45 pm Just a thought but how many games did we lose this season when AMS and Hemmings played together?
Could even have been 100% win rate when they started together. It certainly feels the winning run ended when AMS stopped starting. He wasn't scoring but we were winning. You don't appreciate what you have until you lose it.
Considering the last few years numerous failed attempts to replace both AMS and Hemmo, I struggle to be optimistic.
Instead of signing out of form rejects from leagues above, how about young, confident and inform players from below?

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2026 4:47 pm
by Paulwj
Hemmo did his best work last season playing in a team that could pass the ball through a defence .
Maz , Worrall ,Brown and Devine plus Joe would all try slotting a diagonal ball through for Hemmo to run for .
We don’t play like that anymore and for whatever reason Hemmo can’t adapt and nor can the manager.
As the manager gets to choose how we play it’s probably the correct decision to move Hemmo back to Dagenham.
In my humble opinion.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 11:36 am
by harry211
Confirmed on the club's Twitter.

What a waste.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 1:12 pm
by Dead Man Walking
Criminally underutilised by AM. Brown found a way to get the very best out of Hemmo but he was never going to be able to make a goalscoring impact in the current set up or tactics….
Could easily make a case to say he was signed to deflect attention from the manager and butter up the supporters a bit…..Or am I being overly cynical?

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 1:34 pm
by maxspeed
Dead Man Walking wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 1:12 pm Criminally underutilised by AM. Brown found a way to get the very best out of Hemmo but he was never going to be able to make a goalscoring impact in the current set up or tactics….
Could easily make a case to say he was signed to deflect attention from the manager and butter up the supporters a bit…..Or am I being overly cynical?
IF that were the case, its not a good look and not fair on the player AND was a waste of opportunity to bring in a player who would fit the system - either way it was another recruitment faux par by AM - they are mounting up !!

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 1:44 pm
by auspice
Funny how the recruitment faux pas are mainly forwards: Adigun, Willoughby, Mooney (decent but a big risk), Sho Silva. Probably all on decent wages too.

To be fair to Murray he was on a hiding to nothing taking over a team that should have been promoted as champions last season playing entertaining football and scoring loads of goals. I suspect that he was dead against keeping Hemmo from the outset, and it was only the insistence of Lane and Holdsworth that brought him back.

Arguably Hemmo was the catalyst (both on and off the pitch) that finally sparked more entertaining football for us fans after his arrival. Have to agree with Harry - what a waste!

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 2:06 pm
by tonythescout
I very much doubt the signing of Hemmo was not made by Murray, or that he didnt want him.
Murray would have wanted him and it was an expensive loan move. Why force that on a manager if he doesnt want him? Expescially if we are paying a percentage of his wage (and Hemmo wont have been cheap on the old budget even at us paying half his wage)
Any manager with a brain (despite some faults like everyone, Murray has one) would want to sign the leagues top scorer to help remedy the goals for column issues if made available, which Hemmings was.
Was he utilised property during his time. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. He isnt a lone no 9 and didnt get why in the last month Walker was used over him. Hemmo didnt look the player of last season however throughout his short second spell here, seemed devoid of confidence and it hasnt clicked. This is a different team, different players, different style.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 2:45 pm
by Phil
I would think we were paying all the costs associated with Hemmo: Loan fee, wages, accomodation rental etc because Daggers paid a sizeable fee for him and why would they then pay some of our costs?

Rumours are it was £50K so some of that has gone back from our own pocket into the cost of the loan.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 2:49 pm
by tonythescout
I heard different, we paying a percentage of his wage initially which then increased when we extended it.
Either way we splashed out on it and it sadly hasnt worked

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:10 pm
by harry211
Phil wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 2:45 pm I would think we were paying all the costs associated with Hemmo: Loan fee, wages, accomodation rental etc because Daggers paid a sizeable fee for him and why would they then pay some of our costs?

Rumours are it was £50K so some of that has gone back from our own pocket into the cost of the loan.
Why would he need accomodation rental? From my understanding, I don't think he ever moved down to London. Can't also see why we would pay a loan fee. Wages, yes, however.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 7:04 pm
by HarrierN2
As far as I can tell, Dagenham haven't even announced that he's returning there. What a comedown for Hemmo after last season's fireworks. At least he'll have been well paid for this forgettable season.

In terms of who AM chooses to replace Hemmo with... I think, one way or another, that'll be a season defining decision.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 8:21 pm
by kc 176
harry211 wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:10 pm
Phil wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 2:45 pm I would think we were paying all the costs associated with Hemmo: Loan fee, wages, accomodation rental etc because Daggers paid a sizeable fee for him and why would they then pay some of our costs?

Rumours are it was £50K so some of that has gone back from our own pocket into the cost of the loan.
Why would he need accomodation rental? From my understanding, I don't think he ever moved down to London. Can't also see why we would pay a loan fee. Wages, yes, however.

I spoke to Hemmo in the main stand at the Halesowen friendly when he’d just signed for Daggers. He was going to stay with his brother 2-3 nights a week down south and commute the other days.

Really nice guy, he seemed disappointed the club didn’t try to counter Daggers offer.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2026 10:27 am
by matttrolli
I do agree that it hasn't quite clicked with Hemmo, but out of all the attacking players Murray has brought in (I've genuinely lost count), how many has it actually clicked with? I think it's zero. They can't all be past it...

We're lucky that we've stumbled across the fact that Devine has the chops to operate as an attacking left winger, David Davis gets himself in good positions (though his finishing leaves a lot to be desired), Ryley works hard and can finish and Obi wins headers. Only one of those was a Murray signing and I'm not sure it was for his goal return.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2026 11:21 am
by Pershore Harrier
harry211 wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 11:36 am Confirmed on the club's Twitter.

What a waste.
Indeed so. Some Managers use the players natural ability within the team to get the best return - sadly others don't and instead disregard the talent for some laptop approach which they think is superior.

Re: Hemmo's back home

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2026 12:21 pm
by Harry Aire
Agreed. I think sometimes a draughts player (PB) is better than a chess player (AM) when it comes to getting the most out of players, especially at this level. It's a simple game with two simple objectives. Score and stop them scoring. Chuck the computers in the bin.